moca & rth settings

AlanLichty

Moderator
The part in the ARC BVLOS recommendations that described the autonomous transport services was suggesting a new type of commercial license for PICs to work at some control center with several aircraft in flight at any point in time. It would be entirely BVLOS. The UAS would need to have ADS-B along with some (unspecified) type of Detect and Avoid on board. They want to change the language for See and Avoid to Detect and Avoid. Apparently there is a lot of money being spent to make this work.

Still sounds like an aerial train wreck waiting to happen to me :)
 

pepper

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it sounds like a nightmare to me. i can see drones getting hung up in guy wires and all kinds of crap that you can't see if you're not on the ground. or nets being used to disable drones in the city where they don't want big brother. we've already had problems with people trying to disable drones and we're standing within line of sight.

i traded out my mavic 2e for a mavic 3t. with the rc pro i managed to get rid of 1 of my 2 ipads.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
There is some drone delivery testing going on down in Glendale AZ right now and the neighbors near the drone base hate them already. Not sure how that will play out yet. Also still scratching my head over deliveries in the rain for places like the Pacific NW. Even if they let them do most of the mileage in the 4-500' AGL range they still have to come down into the usual recreational 0-400'AGL level to complete the delivery. Not sure how we are supposed to know they are coming unless they have ADS-B and your sUAS can detect it. Most of the time we see an ADS-B warning we are expecting a manned flight well above us - not delivering a package to the house next door.
 

Brian

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I suppose with remote ID coming, you'd be able to see them on one of the drone apps. I know that is a HUGE issue with remote id. Anyone with an app will be able to see where you are flying. Seems like a huge safety issue to me since drones are so contentious with the public.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
I am one of those who honestly doesn't care who knows I am flying so RID isn't a point of concern and is already fully active on my Mavic 3. I know the rules for where I fly and am fully prepared to prove that to law enforcement should they stop to chat. I see a lot of RID related threads on the Mavic Pilots forum where people are endlessly shrieking about anyone knowing where they are flying which always leaves me wondering what they are actually doing. RID is going to become crucial for detect and avoid scenarios when drone delivery goes mainstream. The delivery drones are going to need to be able to detect and avoid recreational flights when they are in the 0-400' AGL airspace to complete their tasks.

The current BVLOS report that is headed to the FAA in March specifies that delivery drones will need to broadcast ADS-B so we will be able to see them if your drone can detect that beacon.
 

pepper

Well-Known Member
remote id isn't a big deal to me. we've been tracked using airdata since we started. i do wonder what all of the heartburn over rid is about. we've had nosy drone pilots interrupt our public safety missions before.
 

Brian

Well-Known Member
Being an airline pilot, I always follow the regs because it could effect my job. I think a lot of the concern comes from people who just don't like drones and will be dead set on confronting people who fly them. I don't really worry living in a rural area, but if I lived in the city, I could certainly see it becoming an issue.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
Most of the concern I see on the Mavic Pilot's forum is from folks who don't want to be regulated and don't want anyone to see or know what they are doing. Not really a viable stance once they send an aircraft up into fully regulated airspace.

Lots of drones being sold to people without a clue that they even need to get a TRUST certificate think less of knowing anything about NAS and the rules but these aren't the ones making a fuss about RID. The noisemakers know fully well that there are rules for airspace and don't want anyone to know whether they are following them or not.

I keep coming back to drone delivery business models because they had front row seats in the ARC the FAA set up for refining BVLOS rules. If they succeed in taking over even 10% of the online deliveries that's going to be a lot of autonomous flights that will need to finish their tasks within the 0-400'AGL airspace. RID is the only clue those multi-rotor drones are going to have to avoid a recreational flight in the neighborhood.
 

pepper

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there's a lot of disinformation and bad advice being given out to first time drone pilots. which is sad, because the last drone i purchased came with a small piece of paper telling me what to do if i was a first time pilot, such as completing the trust training and registering my drone.

we flew for a special event yesterday. had a dozen or so drones by various agencies in the air at various times. we had various tasks and some overlapping areas to cover. some agencies were flying really old drones so we just had to communicate with each other to make sure there were no incidents. it helped that we each had a designated altitude to fly and we all knew where everyone else's lz was.
 

pepper

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to be fair, i only read it to make sure none of it pertained to me before tossing it back in the box. dji should do away with the paper and build it into the controller to make everyone sees it on the first start up. either enter your part 107 certificate number or take the trust course on the controller, plus all of the other stuff like whether you need to register that drone model with the faa before flying.
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
Those suggestions for getting the nooby's attention have been mentioned more than a few times in drone forums but the discussion always gets tangled up the fact that they sell these things globally. The Mavic 3 they sell in the UK has identical hardware to the ones they sell in the US but features are selectively activated depending on where the drone is located on the planet when it is activated. The only difference in the packaging is the charger.
 
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