Shark Fin Milky Way

Kyle Jones

Moderator
As my entry to this board, here's a shot I took Tuesday night in Davenport. I'd been to this spot a few times over the last month and left empty-handed as clouds moved in to block the view. This week the skies stayed clear long enough to capture the stars and shark fin sea stack. I stacked three 20s images for the sky (ISO 6400) to reduce noise and blended them with a 3 minute exposure (ISO 1600) for the ground.

Any thoughts are always welcome.

 

AlanLichty

Moderator
Stunning result. This is the first time I have heard of stacking the skies like this. Does photoshop's auto-align feature take care of alignment issues?
 

JimFox

Moderator
Staff member
Welcome Kyle!

It is great to have you on board here. :)

You really have nailed shooting the Milky Way.

I like this one a lot. The foreground though simple, adds a really nice element. And the sky looks very nice and crisp.

I have been using Median blending with stacked images to reduce the high iso noise, and that works awesome for the ground layer. For the sky layer though sometimes it works, and other times it starts to cause star trails. So my question is similar to Alans, what method are you using so you keep the stars nice and sharp?

Jim
 

Kyle Jones

Moderator
Thanks all!

Here's the process I used:
1) In the field: I took 3 shots of the sky, each at ISO 6400, 20s, and f/2.8. These were taken right after each other. I then followed up with a single exposure for the ground at ISO 1600, 180s and f/2.8. You can take more shots of the sky to get more noise reduction, but alignment gets harder since stars further away from Polaris move more than those closer to the it - this can lead to more streaking.
2) Back home, I opened all of the files in lightroom. Each "sky" image was processed using the same parameters, but I processed the ground differently (different white balance, contrast, noise reduction, etc.)
3) I opened the ground image and one of the sky images in Photoshop as layers. I manually blended these images to form the base for processing. When you stack MW images, the ground gets blurry which makes blending a challenge. I figured that if I started with a pre-blended base, then I could avoid having to work around the blurry foreground in the stacked images. I used some extra noise reduction on the sky layer since parts of it will be used in the final image and I didn't really care about saving details since those would come from the stack.
4) I then opened all three sky images as layers in a separate photoshop file. I masked out the ground in each layer (so the alignment would just be applied to the stars) and then used edit-auto align to align the stars.
5) I then removed the layer masks, selected the three layers, and converted them to a smart object. I set the blending mode to "median" as Jim noted above.
6) I then copied that smart object and pasted it into my base image from step 3 above.
7) Finally I did a manual blend of the smart object (sky stack) with the base, staying away from the ground, and did a slight crop to remove some of the edge issues created from alignment.

From there, salt and pepper to taste! Hopefully this wasn't too confusing :)
 
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JimFox

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Staff member
BTW, anyone seeing this thread, please go check out the Article section as the steps Kyle listed out have been turned into an Article.

Jim
 

Travis Rhoads

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Great image...I saw it on Flickr today while on mobile and it looks much better here on the desktop...

I experimented with an image and stacking the skies, and it did great, my trouble came with masking out the trees that broke into the sky...I did better with the two unstacked files than I did with the two sets of stacked files...mostly due to movement in the leaves...IIRC I was following a tutorial on it from Ian from Lonely Speck.
 

Kyle Jones

Moderator
Thanks Travis! Yeah, I've run into the same thing, which is why I decided to try the intermediate step of blending the foreground with just one sky image first (with a little extra noise reduction) so I wouldn't have to worry about masking. IO was happy with the process.

Great image...I saw it on Flickr today while on mobile and it looks much better here on the desktop...

I experimented with an image and stacking the skies, and it did great, my trouble came with masking out the trees that broke into the sky...I did better with the two unstacked files than I did with the two sets of stacked files...mostly due to movement in the leaves...IIRC I was following a tutorial on it from Ian from Lonely Speck.
 

Travis Rhoads

Well-Known Member
Thanks Travis! Yeah, I've run into the same thing, which is why I decided to try the intermediate step of blending the foreground with just one sky image first (with a little extra noise reduction) so I wouldn't have to worry about masking. IO was happy with the process.
I should try to go back and overlay the stacked sky image onto the original foreground layer with the good mask and see if I can make it work...not sure why I didn't think of doing that...thanks for the tips, gotta try it out.
 
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