Another World

[JimFox]

Being up at Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota felt like I had traveled to another world. And so I went with Infrared to give it that otherworldly feel.

Nikon D7100 converted to 590nm IR

This does not have false colors, but I did slightly touch the hue of the yellow of the sky to turn it orange as I liked that contrast better for this one.

All comments are welcome,

Jim

PS... @Panther @DougW

 

[Ken Rennie]

Being up at Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota felt like I had traveled to another world. And so I went with Infrared to give it that otherworldly feel.

Nikon D7100 converted to 590nm IR

This does not have false colors, but I did slightly touch the hue of the yellow of the sky to turn it orange as I liked that contrast better for this one.

All comments are welcome,

Jim

PS... @Panther @DougW

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Jim, I have never used an ir camera but as an ex Physicist I do understand some of the Science. I realise that some people channel swop to produce pleasing effects and a sky that isn't yellow/ orange BUT by my way of thinking any colour rendered from an ir image is by definition false am I wrong? I am not saying that producing coloured ir images is wrong or cheating because most people have gone away from photography as an accurate and near exact rendition of reality. Just looking for info, not an argument. Ken

 

[Ben Egbert]

This is nice Jim like to see it in b&w

 

[JimFox]

This is nice Jim like to see it in b&w

Thanks Ben! I will need to try B&W

 

[AlanLichty]

Needs a pair of very large moons in the sky to complete the alien world vibe

 

[JimFox]

Jim, I have never used an ir camera but as an ex Physicist I do understand some of the Science. I realise that some people channel swop to produce pleasing effects and a sky that isn't yellow/ orange BUT by my way of thinking any colour rendered from an ir image is by definition false am I wrong? I am not saying that producing coloured ir images is wrong or cheating because most people have gone away from photography as an accurate and near exact rendition of reality. Just looking for info, not an argument. Ken

Actually Ken, I totally agree with you. In fact when I was typing that this wasn't "false color" a part of my mind actually said to itself that isn't totally true.

To people who have been shooting IR, to use the term "false color" tells them I didn't do a channel swap when I processed this. I have always thought that the term "false color" isn't an accurate term. But it's the term someone came up with years ago. Maybe I should just refer to it as a channel swap in the future.

 

[JimFox]

Needs a pair of very large moons in the sky to complete the alien world vibe

Ha ha... I should remember to do that one of these times.

 

[Ben Egbert]

In my mind IR is only false color if you limit true color to the human spectrum. I consider B&W to be in the same catagory it is not in the human spetrum

but some colors rendered in IR can be pleasing to the eye

 

[Ken Rennie]

Actually Ken, I totally agree with you. In fact when I was typing that this wasn't "false color" a part of my mind actually said to itself that isn't totally true.

To people who have been shooting IR, to use the term "false color" tells them I didn't do a channel swap when I processed this. I have always thought that the term "false color" isn't an accurate term. But it's the term someone came up with years ago. Maybe I should just refer to it as a channel swap in the future.

No need to change what is the normally agreed term, even if it is inaccurate. English is full of things like this. American Football always seems a misnomer to me. Ken

 

[JimFox]

In my mind IR is only false color if you limit true color to the human spectrum. I consider B&W to be in the same catagory it is not in the human spetrum

but some colors rendered in IR can be pleasing to the eye

That's interesting about your thought of B&W being false color too Ben. You might have a point there.

 

[JimFox]

No need to change what is the normally agreed term, even if it is inaccurate. English is full of things like this. American Football always seems a misnomer to me. Ken

So true Ken.

If I stop using the term false color, it's because I have had the same thoughts about that term as you do.

 

[TimMc]

I think if you are shooting as a photojournalist then journalism ethics are the norm and that requires realism. Otherwise you are shooting as an artist and your intent is the only requirement. That doesn't rule out realism, but it leaves that and all else to the artist.

 

[Ken Rennie]

I think if you are shooting as a photojournalist then journalism ethics are the norm and that requires realism. Otherwise you are shooting as an artist and your intent is the only requirement. That doesn't rule out realism, but it leaves that and all else to the artist.

Our journalists' ethics are extremely dubious with truth seldom getting in the way of a story, perhaps USA journalists are more truthful. Ken

 

[JimFox]

I think if you are shooting as a photojournalist then journalism ethics are the norm and that requires realism. Otherwise you are shooting as an artist and your intent is the only requirement. That doesn't rule out realism, but it leaves that and all else to the artist.

Thanks Tim, yeah, I consider myself an artist. Now my work may not be always artistic but that's my goal. Realism is definitely still a part of it. I don't want to create digital art, I produce photography that is real and not fake.

With Infrared since it captures light in a spectrum that is not visible to the human eye, there is of course going to be interpretation and from a color stand point will no longer look real, though it can be processed to look like real colors. But if that's what is being done, might as well just us a normal color camera.

 

[JimFox]

Our journalists' ethics are extremely dubious with truth seldom getting in the way of a story, perhaps USA journalists are more truthful. Ken

I have to agree with you, journalists no longer journal the truth, most seem to be pushing their narrative while ignoring the truth.

But photojournalist's, which was Tim's point, I would hope with their cameras they are still capturing the truth and not digitally altering their photos to be fake.