Dolphin Head Nebula - SH2-308

JimFox

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I don't recall when I first saw images of the Dolphin Head Nebula, but I remember being mesmerized by them, and wishing that I could capture it. In my early days of Astro due to gear limitations, this is one I couldn't capture. But now with my full astro astro setup, I am finally able to capture it!

Going in to capturing this a few days ago, I still had reservations about just how well I might be able to capture it. As this one is pretty faint, and it's also down lower to the horizon right now, which makes the seeing not as clear as if it was higher up. Getting the right exposure was a question mark for this. With our DSLR photography, we simply expose to the right (of the histogram) trying to get on the edge of just not blowing out highlights. With Astro, you basically do the opposite, exposing to the left. With the DSLR, it's typically easy to know the right exposure as it's simply if the highlights are blown it was not a correct exposure, if they aren't you are good. With astro, we are operating in the left side of the histogram, in the blacks. And there is not anyone correct exposure. But coming from the world of the DSLR, I still have in my mind that there is still a "best" exposure, even though in Astro there is an incredible amount of latitude as shadows have some many more levels of recovering then highlights. So understanding exposures is where I am at in my Astro journey. :)

I did my first test image at 5 mins, and was very excited when I could see the outline of the Dolphin Head, but it was faint. I decided to go to a 10 minute exposure, the image still looked pretty faint. It wasn't twice as bright as one might expect by doubling the exposure. Since my guiding was good, and the image was sharp, I decided to go with the 10 minute exposures as hopefully that would help bring out the fainter details.

Mike Lewis can attest as I was texting him at the time, that I was pretty excited after I did my first preliminary stretching after my images were stacked. I didn't recall there being so much detail in the Dolphin Head itself. So I was pretty jazzed, but I had to stop as it was time to go see the new Antman movie that was just released last night. :)

Back to processing this, there was so many faint details in this, it was cool to see. Now my processing has rendered the background pretty dark so 90% of the background details are not visible. I do plan on going back and editing this one a few more times, as I could see several possibilities for how the final look should be. For now though, I wanted this to focus on the Dolphin Head itself and not on the background details.

35 - Lights at 600 secs with the Optolong L-Enhance Filter
30 - Flats
30 - Dark/Flats
5 - Darks

iOptron Gem28
ZWO ASI2600mc Pro
ZWO 120mm Mini - Guide Camera
Askar Fra500
Stacked in Pixinsight
Processed in Pixinsight
BlurXterminator
NoiseXterminator
StarXterminator
Final Touches in Photoshop

All comments are welcome,

Jim

PS. This is my new Best Astro Image I think. :)

DolphinNebula_SH2_308_20230215_d1w.jpg
 

AlanLichty

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It does make for a pretty good semblance of a dolphin head. Can't wait to see what you do to improve upon this one. Looks good as is.....
 

Mike Lewis

Staff Member
JIm,

This is pretty exceptional - as mentioned, lots of good detail in the head. I agree that you are clipping the blacks and losing some extra stuff there most likely, but plenty here to enjoy and marvel at even if you never do any more work on this. I have to tell you I bet you are in the top 10% of GEM28 users to be getting usable 10 minute exposures at 500mm even - that's special. With enough patience and today's modern CMOS deep sky cameras, there is really almost nothing you cannot pull out with subs that long, especially from the dark skies you are driving to (which does help quite a bit...). What Mode and Gain/Offset are you running with?

Great work, as you say, when you started it was just a pipe dream to image these kind of targets - now you are doing it and doing it well. Thanks for including me on the journey for this one - it was fun! 😃

ML
 

Jameel Hyder

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Staff member
This one is aptly named - does resemble a dolphin head. Does the blue dominate this object or is that your processing choice?
 

JimFox

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Staff member
This one is aptly named - does resemble a dolphin head. Does the blue dominate this object or is that your processing choice?
Thanks Jameel. That's it's natural color. It's a good question, because often the Hubble palette or some other color palettes are used. But it was blue in my color camera.
 

JimFox

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Staff member
It does make for a pretty good semblance of a dolphin head. Can't wait to see what you do to improve upon this one. Looks good as is.....
Thanks Alan. Now, my other edits, might not actually be improvements, but variations. :)
 

JimFox

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Staff member
JIm,

This is pretty exceptional - as mentioned, lots of good detail in the head. I agree that you are clipping the blacks and losing some extra stuff there most likely, but plenty here to enjoy and marvel at even if you never do any more work on this. I have to tell you I bet you are in the top 10% of GEM28 users to be getting usable 10 minute exposures at 500mm even - that's special. With enough patience and today's modern CMOS deep sky cameras, there is really almost nothing you cannot pull out with subs that long, especially from the dark skies you are driving to (which does help quite a bit...). What Mode and Gain/Offset are you running with?

Great work, as you say, when you started it was just a pipe dream to image these kind of targets - now you are doing it and doing it well. Thanks for including me on the journey for this one - it was fun! 😃

ML
Thanks Mike. Yep, I remember when using the SkyGuider Pro, how I would see guys doing 5 to 10 minute exposures and only dream about that possibility. So to be able to consistently do 10 minute subs is super cool to me. When I read some of the older tutorials or helps, the risk one ran with longer subs like 10 minutes, is it increased the chance of that sub being ruined by a satellite or plane. But now, all of the popular stacking programs will remove those trails from the images, so we no longer have to throw a frame away because it had the light trail of a satellite passing in it.

With the 2600mc Pro, 100 Gain is recommended as having the best DR. So most everyone just leaves it on it's default of 100 Gain.
 

Comet Hunter

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nicely done, I am been wanting to capture this one too, but its too low in the sky for me with a tree right in its path. One day when I can go to a dark sky site.
 

JimFox

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nicely done, I am been wanting to capture this one too, but its too low in the sky for me with a tree right in its path. One day when I can go to a dark sky site.
Thanks Ed, I am glad you like it! Yeah, this sounds like a good one for a dark sky site where you have a 360 degree sky.
 

JimFox

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Staff member
Nice work looks 3-dimensional !
I really appreciate that Chuck! I am really happy with how this turned out. I hope to try it a little wider too one day as there is some cool nebulosity surrounding it too.
 

Gramps Potter

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I don't recall when I first saw images of the Dolphin Head Nebula, but I remember being mesmerized by them, and wishing that I could capture it. In my early days of Astro due to gear limitations, this is one I couldn't capture. But now with my full astro astro setup, I am finally able to capture it!

Going in to capturing this a few days ago, I still had reservations about just how well I might be able to capture it. As this one is pretty faint, and it's also down lower to the horizon right now, which makes the seeing not as clear as if it was higher up. Getting the right exposure was a question mark for this. With our DSLR photography, we simply expose to the right (of the histogram) trying to get on the edge of just not blowing out highlights. With Astro, you basically do the opposite, exposing to the left. With the DSLR, it's typically easy to know the right exposure as it's simply if the highlights are blown it was not a correct exposure, if they aren't you are good. With astro, we are operating in the left side of the histogram, in the blacks. And there is not anyone correct exposure. But coming from the world of the DSLR, I still have in my mind that there is still a "best" exposure, even though in Astro there is an incredible amount of latitude as shadows have some many more levels of recovering then highlights. So understanding exposures is where I am at in my Astro journey. :)

I did my first test image at 5 mins, and was very excited when I could see the outline of the Dolphin Head, but it was faint. I decided to go to a 10 minute exposure, the image still looked pretty faint. It wasn't twice as bright as one might expect by doubling the exposure. Since my guiding was good, and the image was sharp, I decided to go with the 10 minute exposures as hopefully that would help bring out the fainter details.

Mike Lewis can attest as I was texting him at the time, that I was pretty excited after I did my first preliminary stretching after my images were stacked. I didn't recall there being so much detail in the Dolphin Head itself. So I was pretty jazzed, but I had to stop as it was time to go see the new Antman movie that was just released last night. :)

Back to processing this, there was so many faint details in this, it was cool to see. Now my processing has rendered the background pretty dark so 90% of the background details are not visible. I do plan on going back and editing this one a few more times, as I could see several possibilities for how the final look should be. For now though, I wanted this to focus on the Dolphin Head itself and not on the background details.

35 - Lights at 600 secs with the Optolong L-Enhance Filter
30 - Flats
30 - Dark/Flats
5 - Darks

iOptron Gem28
ZWO ASI2600mc Pro
ZWO 120mm Mini - Guide Camera
Askar Fra500
Stacked in Pixinsight
Processed in Pixinsight
BlurXterminator
NoiseXterminator
StarXterminator
Final Touches in Photoshop

All comments are welcome,

Jim

PS. This is my new Best Astro Image I think. :)

View attachment 56658
Awesome job !!
 

Mike Lewis

Staff Member
Thanks Mike. Yep, I remember when using the SkyGuider Pro, how I would see guys doing 5 to 10 minute exposures and only dream about that possibility. So to be able to consistently do 10 minute subs is super cool to me. When I read some of the older tutorials or helps, the risk one ran with longer subs like 10 minutes, is it increased the chance of that sub being ruined by a satellite or plane. But now, all of the popular stacking programs will remove those trails from the images, so we no longer have to throw a frame away because it had the light trail of a satellite passing in it.

With the 2600mc Pro, 100 Gain is recommended as having the best DR. So most everyone just leaves it on it's default of 100 Gain.
That gain setting is where I run all my NB data. I have also run RGB stars there too, although sometimes have also run at Gain 0. Mode 1 Gain zero has immeasurably higher DR than Mode 1 gain 56 (equivalent to ZWO gain 100) but does have higher noise - so perhaps I should run everything at Mode 1 Gain 56 (your Gain 100) as well...

ML
 

Andy Elliott

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I love this Jim. It's on my bucket list of targets, but I only get a maximum of 2 hours window as it is so low in the sky for me. I did manage to shoot some narrow band a year or so ago. Makes me want to get back on it and shoot some more. Thanks for the inspiration!
 
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