Icon Alert: Yei Bi Chai
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AlanLichty
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Wall hanger. Excellent light for the scene.
I love the nice little stick off to the right in the foreground.
I love the nice little stick off to the right in the foreground.
Alan Hoelzle
Well-Known Member
Fix that hole in the clouds!
Alan Hoelzle
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And there is way too much foreground.
Very nice work Jeffrey. Love those long lead in lines with the ripples.
That reminds me that one time I was out there, I had to tell the Navajo guide where to go as he was headed here first. I prefer to shoot the sunrise from the other side so you can place the rising sun between the totems. Then immediately after the sunrise jump into the guides truck and drive to this side to get that nice light on the totems themselves.
That reminds me that one time I was out there, I had to tell the Navajo guide where to go as he was headed here first. I prefer to shoot the sunrise from the other side so you can place the rising sun between the totems. Then immediately after the sunrise jump into the guides truck and drive to this side to get that nice light on the totems themselves.
This is a new and very weldom icon to me.
Bob Denton
Premium Member
This is great.
Douglas Sherman
Staff
Beautiful, Jeffrey. I love the pastel colors.
Kyle Jones
Moderator
That's a beautiful icon to my eyes. I think the foreground is great and I like the relatively soft light. I do think a case could be made for cloning out the blue bit in the sky.
Alan Hoelzle
Well-Known Member
Hi Jeffrey, sorry for being so blunt. That is just my style. Here's my take on this: There is competition for the focal point. As usual with wide angle lenses, the foreground is too dominant. And that blue opening in the sky is a distraction. Guess I'd ask: what was the story you wanted to tell?
Darcy Grizzle
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Wow Alan Hoelzle, you are quite harsh. I looked at what you posted so far & really see nothing in your photo's that you have started threads on, to bring you up to the place you are attempting to go with your remarks. This is really a lovely photo & it it tells more of a story than the whole 4 beach shots you have up! Chill out, he didn't ask for criticism.
Jeffrey this is beautiful, being an amateur, I would probably crop it around the stick in the sand but that is me.
Jeffrey this is beautiful, being an amateur, I would probably crop it around the stick in the sand but that is me.
Alan Hoelzle
Well-Known Member
I think all my pics tell a story.
Alan Hoelzle
Well-Known Member
Here is my theory of photos--good ones, I mean--they should sing a song, or tell a story. There should be a beginning, a middle, and and end. And there should be point to the story.
Or, a reason for the song. Sometimes, the beauty of the song is good enough, in itself--but that is rare. So many pictures are just representations of things. This does not interest me. Sorry if it sounds harsh. You're free to tell me why my pics do not sing, or tell a story, or how I can make them better. I'll listen.
Or, a reason for the song. Sometimes, the beauty of the song is good enough, in itself--but that is rare. So many pictures are just representations of things. This does not interest me. Sorry if it sounds harsh. You're free to tell me why my pics do not sing, or tell a story, or how I can make them better. I'll listen.
Joe Colozzo
Well-Known Member
Very nice all around. love the perspective of the shot.
AlanLichty
Moderator
We all have a story to tell when we aim our lenses and process the images we shoot. In my mind its neat that there are so many different stories that can be told and even of the same subject. The stories are all unique in that they each come from a different set of photographer's eyes.
This story happens to be Jeffrey's.
Alan Hoelzle
Well-Known Member
Ok, fine, but I'm going to say that there is a way to determine if a pic sings a song, or tells a story. Good photos are not just representations of things that have already been seen. They are new ways of seeing, or new ways of interpreting things that have already been seen. Telling the same story over again is not interesting to me.
Hey Alan, just because a photo doesn't sing to you, doesn't mean that it doesn't sing to others. I also believe that a photo can just be enjoyable. There is no rule that it has to have a beginning, middle or end, it can just be beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. Now one can try to break it down as to what they liked about the image, but to try and put in the terminology of a song I think is too restrictive and it doesn't work for me.
I am one of those that never gets tired of seeing the same icon shots over and over and over again. Why? Because they are not the same each time. I have shot from Tunnel Overview at Yosemite hundreds of times, and it never gets old because the weather, the light is never ever the same twice. I have the same photo that Jeffrey has of the Totems, but does mine look the same? No. Not even close. The totems are the same, but my foreground is different, my clouds were different, etc... So because I have already been there are shot this multiple times, that doesn't mean it's now a tired old song or story. It's fresh song and it's a fresh story every single day we wake up.
Jeffrey
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If a viewer reads a story in any of my images, that's fine with me. If a viewer hears a song in any of my images, that's fine with me. If none of that happens that's OK with me, too. Each viewer has his own way of seeing as does each photographer. I rarely write a lot about the images I post, like some folks enjoy doing. I put my time into creating the image that means something to me. I don't put up long narratives. I believe in producing fine art photography, an elusive term with no universal definition. So, for me, a fine art image, and the ones I present, must speak for themselves. Maybe they sing to you, or tell you a story, but the main criteria I seek is that an image of mine will evoke an emotional response from the viewer. We can discuss the technical aspects and artistic decisions I've made as long as you like, but that's what is important to me and how I judge my success.
BarryHamilton
Founding Member
This image surely sings to me! The long fg speaks to the vast distances out west, and the stick and touch of blue sky are very cool little bonuses. Nicely done, Jeffrey!