Spiral Tower

Kyle Jones

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I spent some time trying to figure out if this structure has a name, as it seems everything else does, but couldn't find anything online. If someone else knows what it is called, please chime in. Until then, I'm going with "spiral tower". This is just outside the west "slot" entrance into the wave looking north back toward the Utah border.

@Johnny Chien asked about my lottery experience, so I figured I'd include another picture with it. Details below the picture...

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The lottery for the wave is only held on weekdays during the winter, so Friday's drawing covers entries on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday - three times as many chances to win as on other days. We arrived in Kanab on Thursday night so we'd be able to be in the BLM office for that Friday drawing. For those who don't know, only 20 people are allowed into the wave each day. Ten spots are assigned via the online lottery and the other ten spots are assigned during the walk-in lottery (this is the path we were taking).

We arrived at the BLM office a little before 8:30. There were several groups of people milling around. Just after 8:30 a gentleman came out and started the proceedings. Group leaders were invited into the lottery room to fill out their forms. They made it really clear (which I already knew) that it is unacceptable for multiple people in a party to fill out separate forms to increase their chances. You are required to list all members of your party on your form, and they did cross-check them to make sure people didn't show up twice. This delayed the actual drawing, as there were a bunch of Chinese groups with very similar names and the staff questioned them intently to make sure nobody showed up twice. Groups can contain up to six people.

Once all the forms were in, the staff did their name checks and assigned a number to each one. They then read back the name of the group leader with the number they were assigned. I was number 14. Overall we had 99 people in 36 groups applying for the 30 spots they were drawing for. Alejandro and I were leaving the area Sunday night, so we'd only be able to accept spots on Saturday and Sunday. To make matters worse, a storm was forecast to come into the area on Saturday, making the roads likely impassable on Sunday. Our best chance would be Saturday.

The drawing is held with balls in a round cage. The cage is spun around and a ball comes out. They started the drawing for the spots on Saturday. The first number was called and it corresponded to a group of 3. Seven spots left. The second number was called and it was another group of 3. 4 spots left. Next they called number 15. I remember that one clearly as it was one away from mine and I took it as a sign that we were doomed. As it turned out, that person declined the spot (they were hoping for another day) and their ball was set aside for the Sunday drawing. Still 4 spots left. Next they called Number 14! Yay! I popped out of my seat to accept the spot. We were in. Another group of two got the last spots for Saturday. They then asked if everyone else wanted to stay in the drawing for Sunday and removed any balls that were for groups that were leaving. The completed the lottery for Sunday and Monday in same manner and the groups were set. One of the days (I forget which) had two spots open when they drew the number for a group of 3. They had to decide on the spot who to leave behind - so be aware of that if you go.

Once all the groups were set they did the orientation - including a lot of stern warnings about how bad the road gets when wet and the dangers of hiking in back country. They successfully made me nervous, but the hike really isn't that bad. There is a pretty well worn trail for the first portion and the landmarks are easy to follow for the rest.
 

JimFox

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This is a very cool swirl Kyle. It looks like an upside down ice cream cone. :)

Thanks for the write up on the permit process. That will be very helpful for others who would like to go there. One thing that impressed me with the rangers is how thorough the trail guide is that they give you. The second half of the trail can be very tricky at spots and easy to get off the trail and lost. People have gotten lost and died on that trail. So I know I appreciated the trail guide with the photos and gps coords included.

So I will add that for anyone going out to the Wave, be sure you have a GPS with you. Most of today's smart phones work great, just make sure you have a back up battery for it with you and have a decent gps app. I use Motion-X GPS app, and I like it a lot.
 

Johnny Chien

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@Johnny Chien asked about my lottery experience, so I figured I'd include another picture with it. Details below the picture...
Thanks for sharing your lottery experience Kyle! Seems like in person lottery is the way to go. The online lottery you can sign up once a month for a date 4 months in advance for $5 (and you don't get it back if you lose). Before you select the date, there is the dates of the month and how many people are going for that date, and the lowest I've seen is 300 people for 10 spots, the more popular weekend dates can be in the thousands, so odds of being selected online, is ridiculously low. It's a good money maker for them I guess because you have thousands of people paying $5 to enter the lottery, win or lose.
 

Johnny Chien

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I should mention when I was out there during the govt shutdown, the BLM office was closed, so no rangers checking permits. A few people hiked the Wave without a permit thinking it was going to be fine, but turns out local law enforcement sheriff was out checking permits and citing people without permits. The citation for hiking the Wave without a permit is $1000+

I guess if you really want to risk it for a ticket, and you get one on the way back from the trail, it might be worth it for some. What would suck is if you were headed out there, got a ticket, didn't even get to see the wave!
 

AlanLichty

Moderator
Very interesting shot and thanks for the writeup of the lottery process. I have never participated in the event nor have I been in the area with a suitable vehicle to travel to the Wave in the first place but an interesting process nonetheless.
 

Kyle Jones

Moderator
I should mention when I was out there during the govt shutdown, the BLM office was closed, so no rangers checking permits. A few people hiked the Wave without a permit thinking it was going to be fine, but turns out local law enforcement sheriff was out checking permits and citing people without permits. The citation for hiking the Wave without a permit is $1000+

I guess if you really want to risk it for a ticket, and you get one on the way back from the trail, it might be worth it for some. What would suck is if you were headed out there, got a ticket, didn't even get to see the wave!
I hadn't realized that they had closed the BLM office - I'm glad the shutdown ended before we got there!

I can imagine that someone who has traveled a long distance to see the wave might consider the cost of a citation as a small price to pay if they don't win the lottery. I'm too much of a rule-follower to go down that path...

One thing I liked before they started the drawing was that they listed a lot of the nearby parks, including Zion and Bryce, and noted that the only real way to lose if someone didn't win the lottery would be to do nothing. Pretty wise if you ask me.
 

Johnny Chien

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One thing I liked before they started the drawing was that they listed a lot of the nearby parks, including Zion and Bryce, and noted that the only real way to lose if someone didn't win the lottery would be to do nothing. Pretty wise if you ask me.
There is so much to see and do around Kanab, and the Wave is just a tiny morsel of what's there. Have you been to White Pocket Kyle? I went there on the same trip, and it was amazing. So many compositions in 1 small area. I'll post some pics of that area and a write up later in the week.
 

Kyle Jones

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There is so much to see and do around Kanab, and the Wave is just a tiny morsel of what's there. Have you been to White Pocket Kyle? I went there on the same trip, and it was amazing. So many compositions in 1 small area. I'll post some pics of that area and a write up later in the week.
I didn't have a vehicle suitable for white pocket, but it is on my list.
 

MonikaC

Well-Known Member
I spent some time trying to figure out if this structure has a name, as it seems everything else does, but couldn't find anything online. If someone else knows what it is called, please chime in. Until then, I'm going with "spiral tower". This is just outside the west "slot" entrance into the wave looking north back toward the Utah border.

@Johnny Chien asked about my lottery experience, so I figured I'd include another picture with it. Details below the picture...

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The lottery for the wave is only held on weekdays during the winter, so Friday's drawing covers entries on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday - three times as many chances to win as on other days. We arrived in Kanab on Thursday night so we'd be able to be in the BLM office for that Friday drawing. For those who don't know, only 20 people are allowed into the wave each day. Ten spots are assigned via the online lottery and the other ten spots are assigned during the walk-in lottery (this is the path we were taking).

We arrived at the BLM office a little before 8:30. There were several groups of people milling around. Just after 8:30 a gentleman came out and started the proceedings. Group leaders were invited into the lottery room to fill out their forms. They made it really clear (which I already knew) that it is unacceptable for multiple people in a party to fill out separate forms to increase their chances. You are required to list all members of your party on your form, and they did cross-check them to make sure people didn't show up twice. This delayed the actual drawing, as there were a bunch of Chinese groups with very similar names and the staff questioned them intently to make sure nobody showed up twice. Groups can contain up to six people.

Once all the forms were in, the staff did their name checks and assigned a number to each one. They then read back the name of the group leader with the number they were assigned. I was number 14. Overall we had 99 people in 36 groups applying for the 30 spots they were drawing for. Alejandro and I were leaving the area Sunday night, so we'd only be able to accept spots on Saturday and Sunday. To make matters worse, a storm was forecast to come into the area on Saturday, making the roads likely impassable on Sunday. Our best chance would be Saturday.

The drawing is held with balls in a round cage. The cage is spun around and a ball comes out. They started the drawing for the spots on Saturday. The first number was called and it corresponded to a group of 3. Seven spots left. The second number was called and it was another group of 3. 4 spots left. Next they called number 15. I remember that one clearly as it was one away from mine and I took it as a sign that we were doomed. As it turned out, that person declined the spot (they were hoping for another day) and their ball was set aside for the Sunday drawing. Still 4 spots left. Next they called Number 14! Yay! I popped out of my seat to accept the spot. We were in. Another group of two got the last spots for Saturday. They then asked if everyone else wanted to stay in the drawing for Sunday and removed any balls that were for groups that were leaving. The completed the lottery for Sunday and Monday in same manner and the groups were set. One of the days (I forget which) had two spots open when they drew the number for a group of 3. They had to decide on the spot who to leave behind - so be aware of that if you go.

Once all the groups were set they did the orientation - including a lot of stern warnings about how bad the road gets when wet and the dangers of hiking in back country. They successfully made me nervous, but the hike really isn't that bad. There is a pretty well worn trail for the first portion and the landmarks are easy to follow for the rest.
Kyle, thanks for the narrative of the drawing.

As I recall from 2 government shutdowns ago, the rangers continued to patrol & caught numerous people trying to sneak in. I think it was close to a $1500 fine.

I've only been there mid-week in winter, and there weren't enough people to fill the available slots! I've been able to get a permit for either same or next day each time I've gone (after giving up on the lottery). Times have changed....
 
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